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glitchhawk
02-24-2012, 07:57 PM
hi before i buy the game i have a quick question... ESRB does not have content discriptors for american nightmare, i know what its rated for.. but not why. does anyone have this information?

Alan Wake's American Nightmare Microsoft Teen Suggestive Themes, Violence, Blood, Language
thebestbit
02-24-2012, 08:13 PM
Mr Scratch does a lot of naughty things and talks about doing other stuff.
yonizzlechizzle
02-24-2012, 10:06 PM
they say shit alot
Kranitoko
02-24-2012, 11:16 PM
In the UK, its rated PEGI 18. Like wtf? :O
Nelsh
02-25-2012, 03:27 AM
Rated T for Titties!

There's a lot of sex talk. xD
MikkiRMD
02-25-2012, 07:58 AM
In the UK, its rated PEGI 18. Like wtf? :O

PEGI is not identical to the ESRB is, they don't use the same criteria. (Typically, PEGI is more sensitive to violence, and the Mr. Scratch stuff pushed up to 18.)
nibblemonkey
02-25-2012, 04:41 PM
PEGI is not identical to the ESRB is, they don't use the same criteria. (Typically, PEGI is more sensitive to violence, and the Mr. Scratch stuff pushed up to 18.)

PEGI are more sensitive all together, BBFC (The other ratings board that is used in the UK) gave Mass Effect 1 a 12 while PEGI gave it 18 for a certain scene in the game.
Kranitoko
02-25-2012, 05:27 PM
PEGI are more sensitive all together, BBFC (The other ratings board that is used in the UK) gave Mass Effect 1 a 12 while PEGI gave it 18 for a certain scene in the game.

In a way, I do like PEGI more. Although the law is a little silly with PEGI. Did you guys know that you can actually buy an 18 PEGI game at 12? It's not a BBFC rated game, so theres no law in it.

But then I dont get the BBFC too. Its BBFC... the F stands for Films :/
nibblemonkey
02-25-2012, 05:38 PM
In a way, I do like PEGI more. Although the law is a little silly with PEGI. Did you guys know that you can actually buy an 18 PEGI game at 12? It's not a BBFC rated game, so theres no law in it.

But then I dont get the BBFC too. Its BBFC... the F stands for Films :/

I like BBFC better because their ratings seem fairer, another thing to point out is that no digital distribution game needs an age rating hence why most games on services like Steam don't have one.
The Law was going to change so that the PEGI ratings were legal and BBFC was no longer involved in games but that has yet to happen for some reason. Currently if a game gets rated 12 or higher by PEGI then the game gets sent to BBFC to be rated which is also why these ratings are more seen on cases (possibly).
MattS
02-25-2012, 05:57 PM
Honestly, everything in this game would have cleared U.S. tv at this point - interesting how PEGI is more sensitive to violence in their ratings.

Its the classic: sex no problem, violence = no way
Nelsh
02-25-2012, 09:15 PM
Wasn't it always the other way round?

Don't educate kids about sex, show them violent cartoons!
glitchhawk
02-29-2012, 07:50 PM
so theres just alot of "adult" talk?
Helspont
02-29-2012, 08:28 PM
PEGI is not identical to the ESRB is, they don't use the same criteria. (Typically, PEGI is more sensitive to violence, and the Mr. Scratch stuff pushed up to 18.)

This is what got Mortal Kombat banned in Australia.

Well not PEGI, it was their rating system, but it doesn't go past 15. So if a game is not okay for 15 year olds to play, it can't be sold in Australia.

Australia got and has been getting a lot of hate for this kind of thing, so they said they would be fixing it in the next few years, so other rating systems have been looking into adjusting to something a little more like the ESRB as well.

Thought it was semi relevant in this thread, and we've been discussing this for months on the Mortal Kombat Online forums, so I thought I would just leave this here ;)
MikkiRMD
02-29-2012, 10:23 PM
so theres just alot of "adult" talk?

Well, the strangling, stomping and slashing people to death has more to do with it, really -- it's not super graphic, but Mr. Scratch does get up to nasty things.
ToastyWaffles
03-02-2012, 02:51 PM
so theres just alot of "adult" talk?
People say sh** a few times, one darkness-touched-lady tries to seduce Wake (again, with just talk). As Mikki said, it's more what Mr. Scratch does, though it all happens on those T.V.'s Alan finds, so the strangling etc. is never up-close, or even totally on screen.
glitchhawk
03-05-2012, 08:27 PM
i don't really care about the violence.. i mean its only a teen game. its the suggestive themes i don't like and prefer to stay away from. thanks for all your answers! any more comments would be great!
VonStreff
03-05-2012, 10:14 PM
Yeah, that was one of the things that I liked about AW1: no "suggestive themes", and no swearing. They even replaced "Jesus Christ" with "Judas Priest!" (when the radio-guy gets shot at). I was a little disappointed when Alan started to swear a bit...
MikkiRMD
03-05-2012, 10:44 PM
Yeah, that was one of the things that I liked about AW1: no "suggestive themes", and no swearing. They even replaced "Jesus Christ" with "Judas Priest!" (when the radio-guy gets shot at). I was a little disappointed when Alan started to swear a bit...

Er, you might want to check again, we have quite a bit of swearing in the original Alan Wake. (The "Judas Priest" bit tells you more about Pat Maine's personality than anything else, really.)
Nelsh
03-05-2012, 10:54 PM
"You can use my...." was pretty XXX rated though. :P
Dusk Golem
03-06-2012, 04:54 PM
The differences in the rating systems also can be applied to the differences in what is "alright" between the different countries. America is much more lenient of violent scenes more so than Europe, but Europe in turn is much more lenient with violent scenes than Japan. Another example is that nudity in American films and games make the ratings for the title much more stingy, but it's much more lenient in Europe than it is in America, and even more so in Japan.

Different countries just have different 'moral' standings based on factors such as culture, socially, upraising, and the likes.
VonStreff
03-06-2012, 10:27 PM
Er, you might want to check again, we have quite a bit of swearing in the original Alan Wake. (The "Judas Priest" bit tells you more about Pat Maine's personality than anything else, really.)

Really? I didn't notice. Other games have a ridiculous amount, so maybe I just didn't notice the AW swearing because it wasn't a major part of the dialogue. Anyway, you guys should try to minimize it. It makes it more emphatic when they do swear, because it's so rare. Just my thoughts...
Doctor Scratch
03-13-2012, 05:16 PM
The lady in the third chapter of each act says some pretty naughty things to Alan before he turns the power back on -- talks about wanting him inside her and whatnot -- and then you've got Mr. Scratch being delightfully diabolical.

I read in another thread that they couldn't put the Mr. Scratch videos in the special features in HD because it would have affected the rating. This in spite of the fact that a lot of the nasty things he does happens off-camera. It's brutal in how suggestive it is, but there's precious little gore on-screen. I've seen more outright violent stuff on prime time television here in the states, but I think it was the overseas market where it really would have pushed the rating over the top.

As for the swearing: I'm not sure how much more minimal it could get. The characters talk like real people, so occasionally they swear. To be honest, I think Mr. Scratch swears less than the rest of the cast in this series, and he's batshit crazy!